“White, Woke, but Spiritually Broke”

This video is an important conversation every Christian needs to hear. While we all should support real justice for black Americans and be for police reform, we must also be discerning about the agenda and ideology behind social justice movements today. I’ve talked about this here, here, and here. This interview is with two Christian leaders that I highly respect— Sean Feucht and Ryan Bomberger.

As you may know, Sean has been leading the “Let Us Worship” and “Hold The Line” movements across the country. I have posted a couple of articles about that here.

Sean and Ryan discuss these hard issues and examine the “underbellies” of what’s behind the agenda of these movements. Feucht summarizes what they talk about here:

“The Gospel of Jesus not the Gospel of Wokeness –  Ryan Bomberger & I  talk “Wokeness,” Back Lives Matter, White Privilege, Systematic Racism, Trump & True Reconciliation.”

They pose critical questions that we must grapple with as believers. Ryan gives some insights for white Christians who may be struggling with how they can be for justice and support our black brothers and sisters without succumbing to an agenda that, as Bomberger puts it, “rejects our theology in its entirety.” 

Bomberger makes an interesting connection between the civil rights movement of the 60s and what we’re seeing today. On one end of the civil rights spectrum was Martin Luther King and on the other end was Malcolm X and the Black Power movement. They were two diametrically opposed worldviews, even though both were for racial justice. The former was Christian in principle, the latter was very much not. The latter promoted riots, violence and anarchy, the former did not. We see the same opposing views today under the moniker “social justice” or activism. This is what makes navigating these important issues so confusing, and why it’s critically important that we understand the ideologies behind the movements we want to support.

Bomberger also points out that our nation will be healed when the church talks about these issues from a healing perspective that can only come from the God of unity, not one that one that only focuses on our skin color. This is because, as Paul said, love is what binds us all together in perfect unity:

12 Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. 13 Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14 And over all these virtues put on love, which binds them all together in perfect unity. (Col.3:12-14 NIV)

Finally, Bomberger appeals to white Christians who may jump in headlong on this issue without first investigating it. To put it his words, “Stop acting without knowing!” Then later he said, “You cannot have justice without truth.”  He says not to supplant the Word of God with worldly knowledge (like Critical Race Theory).

The interview is long, but well worth watching. They share a lot of wisdom that can help us navigate these issues as believers. If true justice that brings healing and unity is important to you, then you should watch it in its entirety. It’s that important. I pray you watch it with an open heart and a discerning spirit.

About Mel Wild

God's favorite (and so are you), a son and a father, happily married to the same beautiful woman for 39 years. We have three incredible adult children. My passion is pursuing the Father's heart in Christ and giving it away to others. My favorite pastime is being iconoclastic and trailblazing the depths of God's grace. I'm also senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in Wisconsin.
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15 Responses to “White, Woke, but Spiritually Broke”

  1. pkadams says:

    After learning more about slave owning preachers and racism in the church, I feel discouraged about this whole issue and more compassionate to the cause. And even more determined to spread TRUTH, as you are doing here. Satan is always at work to destroy God’s children through the church and in the church. We must continue to fight the good fight and warn, expose and reform the church from within.

    • Mel Wild says:

      Amen. Yes, we should never shy away from the ugly things from our past, like how slavery was condoned by some preachers (there was even a pro-slavery Bible in the 19th century), while also remembering that it was preachers and other Christians who fought tirelessly to end slavery. The abolitionists were all Christians. But the “woke” history we’re seeing today, like NYT’s “The 1619 Project,” is irresponsibly too slanted the other way. Both extremes are wrong. We need a courageous and fully informed and balanced education of our history and, more importantly, we need to honestly assess our own hearts and remember that it’s Christ, not a worldly agenda, that brings true healing and unity.

      Btw, during Black History Month this year, Larry Elder gave the history of slavery you’ll never hear from the mainstream media. We really need to hear the whole story on these important issues.

  2. “Stop acting without knowing!” Then later he said, “You cannot have justice without truth.”

    Ahh, that is so good! I really needed to hear those words today too, so perfect timing.
    I really liked that word they used too, a “factivist,” not an “activist.” Good points about Christians acting without knowing, having this kind of knee jerk reaction, this compassion without wisdom, without knowing what they are involved in.

    Justice and truth have to go hand in hand. You just can’t have one without the other. A bit funny, but I think it was Superman who coined the phrase, “truth, justice, and the American way.” Ironically Superman was actually an alien, an orphan, a refugee, who stood up to bullies and oppression with integrity.

    • Mel Wild says:

      Yeah, it’s funny that Superman knew what it was to be an American but many of us either forgot or don’t know. Like the frog in the kettle, we’ve been cooking in forms of socialism and Marxist ideologies for so long we don’t realize what’s happening. Now, we’re reaping the results with cancel culture and identity politics and critical race theory. Many legal aliens who live here know this all too well. I have a good friend from Ukraine who thinks these “woke” people are absolutely crazy to want socialism in any form after they fought so hard to escape from it. Marxist and socialism create totalitarian nightmare governments wherever it’s been allowed to dominate. You would think we would understand that after 100 years.

  3. Citizen Tom says:

    Reblogged this on Citizen Tom and commented:
    One of the things moany Americans have never learned is what made America possible. We don’t grow up with the understanding of what makes someone a Christian, and we don’t grow up with the understanding of what makes a nation Christian. We have to be taught, and it helps to have a good teacher.

    As a pastor Mel Wild is a teacher. Part of teaching is finding good instructional material. So, if the video in Mel’s post seems a bit long, be patient. A good instructor selected it.

  4. boudicabpi says:

    Reblogged this on Boudica BPI Weblog and commented:
    H/T Citizen Tom

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  6. Thank you for sharing this – SO good! I agree that the major problem in the black community is the absence of fathers. I will be writing soon about a friend of mine that started a ministry to urban youth called S.O.N.S. (They’re on Facebook) based on the Scripture “He will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers.” (Malachi 4:6) This ministry does more good in one afternoon than the BLM movement has done in months of protests.

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