Sonshift Study – Chapter Eight

This is the ninth installment of our discussion on my book, Sonshift: Everything Changes in the Father’s Embrace. Today, we’ll be looking at chapter eight titled, “Faith Shift.”

I invite you to respond to some or all of these questions. Also, please give additional comments on the chapter that my questions don’t address.  My only rules are that you’ve actually read the chapter and that your answers are brief.  Okay, here we go!

Chapter Eight: Faith Shift

This chapter deals with the shift in our understanding of faith in the body of Christ today. Faith is based in what you don’t see (2 Cor.5:7); as soon as you can see a thing, you no longer need faith. This may seem simplistic, yet so many Christians live circumstantially rather than by faith.

“The Faith Shift we need to make, then, is moving from “seeing is believing” to “believing is seeing.” It’s transitioning from seeing our current experience as reality to seeing what God says as more real than our current experience.” (p. 183; Kindle loc. 3054)

Discussion Questions:

  1. Can you relate to the author’s experience of being an “unbelieving believer?” Why do you think it’s so hard for Christians to believe in the supernatural?
  2. Why do you think God wants us to trust the things He says that we cannot see over what we can see?
  3. How does our faith work like a self-fulfilling prophecy?
  4. Why is it important to apply our faith toward what God says is true rather than in our experience? How does this transform us?
  5. What is the significance of faith having its foundation in the past? How does that help you have confidence in what you believe?
  6. Why is hearing God so important to our faith?

 If these questions didn’t address something you think is important, please add it in your comments. If you would like to make any comments offline, please email me at mwild@ceuturytel.net.  Thank you!

Now, it’s your turn!

About Mel Wild

God's favorite (and so are you), a son and a father, happily married to the same beautiful woman for 39 years. We have three incredible adult children. My passion is pursuing the Father's heart in Christ and giving it away to others. My favorite pastime is being iconoclastic and trailblazing the depths of God's grace. I'm also senior pastor of Cornerstone Church in Wisconsin.
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6 Responses to Sonshift Study – Chapter Eight

  1. Mel, sorry it’s taken me so long to respond to this; let me respond to all the questions in these few paragraphs.
    I think I ride a roller coaster of being an “unbelieving believer” and yet I began my walk with Christ in full trust and faith in what I did not see. I think I’ve mentioned before that within six months of my acceptance of the grace and love of the Father through Christ, I was diagnosed with stage three breast cancer. Immediately, a sense of peace came over me; I knew I would be healed. (At this point in my relationship with God, I had not yet read the Bible; I did not know the difference between the Old Testament and New. I had never read the words of Jesus.) When I prayed, instead of praying for healing, I only asked God to bring me through the treatment plan with grace and humor; He did.

    As you state, this faith served to transform my experience. I approached it with full confidence, and allowed others to witness humor instead of hard feelings; grace instead of grumbling; faith instead of fear.

    However, I have also at times allowed experience and circumstance to overrule my head and heart, to cast doubts upon my faith. When I lack faith, I close the door to the grace, love and healing God has for me. I must invite Him in through my faith in order to receive His gifts. Extending this invitation is the only way for me to hear His voice. And now that I’ve studied His Word, I can also avail myself of the foundation of my faith. Those red-letter words that help uphold me in times of need, the ones the Spirit reminds me of in the quiet times of respite from the circumstances, from the word, just He and I connecting in relationship.

    • Mel Wild says:

      Wow, Susan. You answered these brilliantly! And no problem with the delay. These posts are out there to be responded to at anytime. 🙂

      You’ve got an amazing testimony of true faith with all that you’ve been through, and you share it so honestly. It really is a walk of faith that really tries our trust in God. I really liked what you said here…
      “Those red-letter words that help uphold me in times of need, the ones the Spirit reminds me of in the quiet times of respite from the circumstances, from the word, just He and I connecting in relationship.”
      Amen!
      Again, faith is when we don’t see, but healing also includes the wisdom of doctors and medical science. We can thank God for all of it.

      Thanks again for your willingness to take time and answer these questions. Your input has really helped me so much in putting this study together.
      Blessings to you and oceans of love!

  2. dawnlizjones says:

    1. I think when you refer to “Christians”, you probably mean 21st American Christians. As such, we are well-steeped (since about the 1700’s) in scientific separation of faith and reason (AKA the so-called Enlightenment; cf. Schaeffer). I look forward to reading Nee’s book.
    2. What I can see (which includes what I can understand) is overwhelmingly puny in comparison. God has options I’m not even aware of.
    3. I’m so glad you mentioned this psychological part. We are, in fact, made this way, and someone who is outside of faith would easily use this against a Christian debate, implying faith is simply that. Personally, I would love to see an expanded version of the difference between the two. How would you answer someone in this case? (Other than, yes, it’s a bit difficult to argue with a revivified human….)
    4. Experiences must be interpreted, are subject to change, and are unpredictable, thereby becoming a cause for fear and anxiety and misunderstanding. God’s word is unchangeable, and produces relationship. Trusting in His unseen options, even in the midst of my pain, produces maturity manifested in multiple ways, which is helpful to more than myself, (‘cuz it’s never just about me…)
    5. There is comfort in “so great a cloud of witnesses”, a family of faith that stretches way back, knowing that “no temptation has overtaken me that is not common”, et. al. More importantly, the prophets that looked forward and the fulfilled prophecies that confirmed looking back—who has that but Christianity?
    6. Personal revelation is massive. I can read God’s word, but I the Word to “read” me, download Himself more and more into my mind and heart. That’s relationship, revelation.

    • Mel Wild says:

      Thanks again, Dawn. Great answers.
      On your question on #3, we generally get what we expect to see. Negatively speaking, if we don’t believe in miracles, we won’t get them. This world operates on seeing is believing; Christ’s kingdom works on believing is seeing.
      What’s interesting about this is that the disciples did NOT expect Jesus to be crucified and, especially, rise from the dead. So, it wasn’t a self-fulfilled prophecy, but actual prophecy fulfilled, in spite of their expectations.

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